And we're out ! America doesn't lose wars – we " withdraw " from them.  It was Sept 11th, 2001 when George Bush started to blame Afghanistan for hijackings of 4 American planes by 19 (out of 21) Saudi nationals and it was Al-Queda that took credit for it, not the Taliban but we attacked Afghanistan anyway and found no chemical weapons but we did kill 71,000 civilians and injured over 500,000 more (and triple that including soldiers)in a country of 40M – so every single Afghani person pretty much has someone they know who's been killed or injured by Americans over the past 20 years  – and we wonder why they don't like us… . We invaded Afghanistan in December of 2001 and, by 2004, we had displaced the Taliban and installed a corrupt, puppet Government that lasted for 10 years while the war with the Taliban raged on.  But the Taliban found lots of recruits and we never got rid of them – no matter how many weddings we bombed – go figure… Trump initiated peace talks last November and we were supposed to be out by May 1st but it's been a little delayed, Biden re-set the deadline to Sept 11th (20 year anniversary) but then changed it to August 31st – so less than 20 years.  The Taliban, however, stuck to the original timeline and started taking over Afghan provinces again in May, starting with Helmand, where all the good poppies are grown.   As of yesterday, they took over the capital and now Biden is sending in 5,000 troops as 30,000 US civilians still need to be evacuated.  But don't count this as a loss – America doesn't lose wars… This isn't Trump's loss, this isn't Biden's loss, this is America's loss as we went into this war for all the wrong reasons and we never had a real plan to fix anything.  This war was about oil and massive military contracts for Dick Cheney's Haliburton (HAL) and other military contractors who made a fortune on it and had no desire to see it end.  The left didn't want to end it badly enough and the right didn't want to win it badly enough so we half-assed a war for 20 …